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[sun_marine]

Hello! I have a question that's been bothering me for some time. Watchig movie "King's speech" I met an expression "Waiting for me to... commence a conversation, one can wait rather a long wait." Ждать, чтобы я завязал диалог можно очень долго, right?

Could you please explain this rule about "one" and when we use it?

[pure_turquoise]

Hello! I have a question that's been bothering me for some time. Watchig movie "King's speech" I met an expression "Waiting for me to... commence a conversation, one can wait rather a long wait." Ждать, чтобы я завязал диалог можно очень долго, right?

Could you please explain this rule about "one" and when we use it?

Thank you for the question. That's one of my favourite movies ever!

'Commence' means 'begin/start', and it's rather formal. (C2 level of English)

The word 'one' has several functions in English, including the one that you've mentioned.

1) It's a formal pronoun (C1 level of English) which means 'any person', but not a particular person.
Examples:
One has an obligation to one's friends.
One ought to make the effort to vote.
One's primary responsibility is to the legal system.
One must not assume from this that the defendant is guilty.
I wondered whether there might, after all, be some truth in the old chestnut that one's school days are the happiest of one's life.
Yoga is said to restore one's inner equilibrium.
Spending time with one's family is never an unalloyed pleasure.

2) Another meaning is a formal pronoun I/ME which means 'the person speaking or writing':
Of course, one (= I) would be delighted to dine with the Queen.


I can assume your example is closer to 2), right?

Hope it helps.

[sun_marine]

Thank you for the question. That's one of my favourite movies ever!

'Commence' means 'begin/start', and it's rather formal. (C2 level of English)

The word 'one' has several functions in English, including the one that you've mentioned.

1) It's a formal pronoun (C1 level of English) which means 'any person', but not a particular person.
Examples:
One has an obligation to one's friends.
One ought to make the effort to vote.
One's primary responsibility is to the legal system.
One must not assume from this that the defendant is guilty.
I wondered whether there might, after all, be some truth in the old chestnut that one's school days are the happiest of one's life.
Yoga is said to restore one's inner equilibrium.
Spending time with one's family is never an unalloyed pleasure.

2) Another meaning is a formal pronoun I/ME which means 'the person speaking or writing':
Of course, one (= I) would be delighted to dine with the Queen.


I can assume your example is closer to 2), right?

Hope it helps.

My question was about 1) Thank you!

As I understood it relates to formal style.
Can I say : One applies one for more formal style. ?

[pure_turquoise]

My question was about 1) Thank you!

One should remember it always depends on the context. ))

As I understood it relates to formal style.
Can I say : One applies one for more formal style. ?

In theory, yes. But I doubt that somebody would say or write like this. Sounds unrealistic to me.

In case they are, I would change the preposition. It's better to add an article and the inverted commas in your example as well:

One applies 'one' to a more formal style.

If it's a rule, I'd do the following:

One should apply 'one' to a more formal style.
or
Apply 'one' to a more formal style.
or
'One' is usually applied to a more formal style.
etc.

[sun_marine]

One should remember it always depends on the context. ))



In theory, yes. But I doubt that somebody would say or write like this. Sounds unrealistic to me.

In case they are, I would change the preposition. It's better to add an article and the inverted commas in your example as well:

One applies 'one' to a more formal style.

If it's a rule, I'd do the following:

One should apply 'one' to a more formal style.
or
Apply 'one' to a more formal style.
or
'One' is usually applied to a more formal style.
etc.

Great! Thanks a lot!!!

One should continue learning English, even if one makes mistakes. ?

unrealistic

One applies 'one' to a more formal style. - One добавляется для более формального стиля.
Is this correct translation?

One should remember it always depends on the context. - Нужно помнить, что это всегда зависит от контекста.

How does it translates into Russian?

[pure_turquoise]

Great! Thanks a lot!!!
One should continue learning English, even if one makes mistakes. ?

Absolutely! Just remember one thing which is of paramount importance:

One applies 'one' to a more formal style. - One добавляется для более формального стиля.
Is this correct translation?

More or less, yes.

One should remember it always depends on the context. - Нужно помнить, что это всегда зависит от контекста.

..., что всё всегда зависит от контекста.

How does it translates into Russian?

'How is it translated into Russian' you mean, right?
(the passive construction will be better here)

[sun_marine]

'How is it translated into Russian' you mean, right?
(the passive construction will be better here)

Yeah..

But my question is still here )) When 'one' is used "to refer to ‘people in general’ ", how do we translate it into Russian?

[pure_turquoise]

But my question is still here )) When 'one' is used "to refer to ‘people in general’ ", how do we translate it into Russian?

I thought the examples I had posted above give the idear of 'when':

In such sentences there's no need to translate 'one' into Russian because the meaning of a sentence is too general or rather formal.

One ought to make the effort to vote. - Нужно приложить усилия, чтобы проголосовать.
One must not assume from this that the defendant is guilty. - Из этого не следует, что подсудимый виновен.
One's primary responsibility is to the legal system. - Быть законопослушным наша главная обязанность.
Yoga is said to restore one's inner equilibrium.- Говорят, что йога восстанавливает внутреннее равновесие.

[sun_marine]

Thank you! And when I translate from Russian I can use different ways for translation? For example: Из этого не следует, что подсудимый виновен. - It's not obvious, that defendant is guilty. - Is this correct?


Is this construction called impersonal construction?

[pure_turquoise]

Thank you! And when I translate from Russian I can use different ways for translation? For example: Из этого не следует, что подсудимый виновен. - It's not obvious, that defendant is guilty. - Is this correct?

It's all in the context, remember? )) Depends on who says, when and where.

Without context I say 'yes'.

Is this construction called impersonal construction?

Yes. One of them.

[sun_marine]

It's all in the context, remember? )) Depends on who says, when and where.

Without context I say 'yes'.



Yes. One of them.

Context is our everything. Thank you!!!

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